Steve QJ
2 min readNov 8, 2021

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No, that's not what I'm saying. The point is that we understand jokes as jokes for pretty much every topic there is. Some jokes are funny, some jokes aren't. Some contain wisdom, most don't. I'm not beginning to suggest that nobody should be criticising comedians in general or Chappelle in particlar ofr offending them or not making them laugh. It's the outrage and "this is hate speech that should be removed from Netflix" part that I'm questioning.

And I disagree with your logic here. Many women do get offended by Dave's gratuitous use of the word bitch. I wouldn't criticise them for that at all. But as you say, it's obviously a joke. So if they claimed that his words were going to get women killed or protested demanding that it was removed from Netflix, that would be ridiculous.

His team TERF line? Just like his "I'm transphobic" lines? They were equally obviously jokes. He doesn't "simply drop this line", it's just that you have to still be willing to give a fair listening to the context of the show when trans issues are brought up. This willingness has been astonishingly lacking.

Dave had just spent five minutes arguing against North Carolina's anti-trans bathroom bills (funny how little mention this fact has gotten), which makes the "Trans Exclusionary" part hard to square. He reveals that he's just learned what the word "feminist" means from Webster's dictionary, making the "Radical" part pretty implausible. TERF, in it's current usage, doesn't mean anything except that you don't unquestioningly accept every aspect of trans ideology.

Dave believes that gender (by which he obviously means sex, this was definitely clumsily worded) is a fact. So does pretty much everybody on the planet. If this is the standard by which one becomes a TERF, then everybody with a brain is a TERF. Yet understanding that sex is a real thing that doesn't change, is in no way incompatible with loving and supporting trans people. It's so sad that some "trans people and their allies" have made trans acceptance contingent on accepting ideas and language that make no sense.

And sure, you make a fair point about suicide speculation. Next time you hear somebody using suicide statistics of trans people, or see people like Terra Field, parading the names of everybody on the 2021 TDOR list to try to add emotional impact to her criticism of a comedy special, I hope you'll be just as keen to completely separate psychological abuse from the reasons why somebody takes their life. I mean, how do we know the higher suicide rates among trans people have anything to do with the abuse trans people face? Right? We have no idea why they committed suicide.

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Steve QJ
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