Yeah, I understood that. And I agree. I'm just not sure what the point you're making is. Without guns, America would also have less murders than it currently has. Isn't that alone a worthy goal?

If you want to tackle the cultural aspects of violence and whatever other issues you think are relevant, that's great. I agree wholeheartedly. I also concede that you'll have difficulty confiscating guns or even getting better gun legislation passed. The question I'm asking is, isn't that difficulty worth it?