Yeah, I'm not saying he doesn't enjoy his work, it's just not relevant. I'm saying that the comparison between him running what is effectively a Ponzi scheme with some mediocre advice mixed in, and the constant derision and indifference that many young men face, is not a fair comparison.

A teenage boy who has his heart broken by a girl who's been taught to see him as a disposable means of getting free meals and nice things (and please believe me when I tell you there are soo many examples of young girls who have been taught to think like this, another problem we don't talk about) is not comparable in that young man's mind to giving Andrew Tate, the man who "speaks up for him" $100.

Again, I can't speak for you, but I know many women will read the above and say "Oh yeah, well what about all the young men who have been taught to treat women like sex objects???" This is a fair point. I'm not arguing. I'm saying that the instinct to immediately "what about..." instead of just pausing and thinking about the men as well, is the issue.

Your comment seems to be an attempt to say that Tate is just as bad as the other societal forces that make these young men feel like crap. He's not. At least, not in their eyes. Because he is one of the few people who, when he speaks, is always on men's side. I'm not saying this is right. I'm not saying he's right. I'm saying the fact that it's such a rarity for young men is a problem.

There are countless women out there who speak up for women. There are lots of men who speak up for women. But very few men who speak up for men. And as for women who speak up for men, the only one I can think of, Cassie Jaye, almost had her life ruined for doing so.