Yes of course they are. I actually edited my reply (too late obviously) because I anticipated you'd quibble with this semantic point and miss the actual point, which is that there are billions of people of European descent and only a minority of them speak English. Many of them aren't white. To say "the world ecomony is organised around 'their' languages etc." is not only inaccurate, it lumps an enormous, diverse group of people, the vast majority of whom have nothing to do with what you're talking about, under the all-pervasive "they."

So no. It's not dumb. It's that you're more interested in quibbling than thinking. If you think I'm intelligent enough to use as a sounding board to "clarify you're views on several issues", maybe allow for the possibility that you're the one who's missing something.

Ah yes, of course, Asians are white now. How silly of me. Presumably soon we'll consider all Asians just as eternally culpable for slavery as all white people? The anti-Asian violence that plagues Asian communities will just be "man's inhumanity to man" and nothing to do with racism. Okay. I mean, when you say "white" do you really just mean "amongst the first cultures who were orientated towards capitalism?" Because that might even be a worthwhile discussion. But it would also illustrate how flawed the choice of "white" to describe this is.

So no, J, we're not on topic. The topic was whether maintaining traditions from pre-slavery societies could conceivably be a way of abandoning the lie of race. We've obviously left that topic in the dim and distant past. I can see how clarifying your positions on every other topic under the umbrella of racism is worthwhile for you. But it's not particularly worthwhile for me. Certainly not for months on end. And given that you expect me to deal with your occasional passive aggression and disingenuousness along with it, I'm pretty sure it's more frustrating for me than for you.

Your positions on racism are unclear to you because you're starting from a conclusion (the world is against black people and "white people" are all in on the plot) and trying to bend reality to work backwards to it. This means that there are obvious things you don't allow yourself to think clearly about. Whenever there's evidence that conflicts with your conclusion, it just gets folded into the ever expanding definition of "white people". If you can't admit this or see how counterproductive it is, I don't think we're going to get anywhere valuable even if we talk for another few months.